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Old 14th July 2010, 12:41
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Hello,

An open invitation to our opposition to participate in a free speech debate

At last year's Sydney Forum, a small group of protestors assembled outside the Forum displaying a variety of banners, including one that said “Hate Speech is not Free Speech”. We at the Sydney Forum do not believe that the Forum constitutes “hate speech”, in fact we wonder what the term “hate speech” really means or what the use of the term is intended to accomplish. We believe that this is a subject worthy of discussion, and at this year's Sydney Forum we are holding a debate on the following topic:

Hate Speech – Cunning censorship or real concern?

The Sydney Forum organisers will nominate a person to argue the case for “Cunning Censorship”, and we invite the public to nominate someone to argue the case for “Real Concern”. We especially welcome nominations from groups/persons who have been most vocal in condemning and trying to shut down the Sydney Forum.

The forum organisers reserve the right to select this person from the list of nominees, and will select someone whom we consider to be academically and intellectually qualified to argue the case. If in the opinion of the organisers, no suitable candidate has emerged, the reasons for this will be stated and an address on Hate Speech will be given at the Forum and be duly published.

Nominations for parties interested in arguing the case for "Real Concern" close on 1 August 2010, and the names of both debaters will be revealed on 2 August.

The audience members will vote on which argument “won” the debate.

All audience members must be paid ticket holders attending the 2010 Sydney Forum and must abide by the forum rules of respecting the speakers' right to talk without being interrupted or heckled. The same applies to audience questions.

We ask that you distribute this flyer widely to publicise the event, thank you!

Further information about the debate and the Sydney Forum can be found on the Sydney Forum website.

Thank you
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Mods this event is a platform for facists and the extreem right in australia. Please remove this.
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Hello,

An open invitation to our opposition to participate in a free speech debate

At last year's Sydney Forum, a small group of protestors assembled outside the Forum displaying a variety of banners, including one that said “Hate Speech is not Free Speech”. We at the Sydney Forum do not believe that the Forum constitutes “hate speech”, in fact we wonder what the term “hate speech” really means or what the use of the term is intended to accomplish. We believe that this is a subject worthy of discussion, and at this year's Sydney Forum we are holding a debate on the following topic:

Hate Speech – Cunning censorship or real concern?

The Sydney Forum organisers will nominate a person to argue the case for “Cunning Censorship”, and we invite the public to nominate someone to argue the case for “Real Concern”. We especially welcome nominations from groups/persons who have been most vocal in condemning and trying to shut down the Sydney Forum.

The forum organisers reserve the right to select this person from the list of nominees, and will select someone whom we consider to be academically and intellectually qualified to argue the case. If in the opinion of the organisers, no suitable candidate has emerged, the reasons for this will be stated and an address on Hate Speech will be given at the Forum and be duly published.

Nominations for parties interested in arguing the case for "Real Concern" close on 1 August 2010, and the names of both debaters will be revealed on 2 August.

The audience members will vote on which argument “won” the debate.

All audience members must be paid ticket holders attending the 2010 Sydney Forum and must abide by the forum rules of respecting the speakers' right to talk without being interrupted or heckled. The same applies to audience questions.

We ask that you distribute this flyer widely to publicise the event, thank you!

Further information about the debate and the Sydney Forum can be found on the Sydney Forum website.

Thank you

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Mods this event is a platform for facists and the extreem right in australia. Please remove this.

Thank you for the perfect text book reply as to why we need to have this debate.

From the Sydney Forum website:

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The Sydney Forum is the major speaking event of the Australian patriotic resistance calendar. The Forum supports the cause of Australian freedom and independence, and therefore the forum opposes the totalitarianism of the emergent New World Order.

In our current times political debate is needed more than ever to advance the discussion between political parties and individuals to address the issues in our modern world. Political discussion today comes from the top down to the people and not from the people to the top as it should be in a real democratic society. More than ever, the political leadership and the media are vetting the news of world and domestic events and telling us what to think.

The general aim of the Sydney Forum is to advance freedom of speech and the exchange of ideas between different groups from across the political spectrum, with a focus on issues of current concern. While it is true that many of the speakers are from the so-called right wing/conservative/constitutionalist/nationalist side of politics, we also invite and involve speakers who are from the mainstream and extreme left wing side of politics. For example, the Communist Party of Australia was invited to address the Sydney Forum in 2004, and the Ambassador of Ba'athist Iraq spoke in 2002. He told the meeting that the Sydney Forum was the only event where he was able to be heard to tell his country's side of the story.

Here are some of the topics and previous speakers from the forum:

bulletDr. Ibrihim Saad Al-Samarai, charges d’affaires of the former Republic of Iraq denounced the war drive of the New World Order against Iraq and denied the existence of ‘weapons of mass destruction’.
bulletRihab Charida - Rihab was invited as an expert on the Palestinian question and Zionist practice. She replaced on short-notice a spokesman of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party. Her appearance aroused controversy in leftist and so-called ‘anti racist’ circles, because of her marxist views.
bulletLeon Gregor - president of the British-Israel Federation, he warned about psycho-politics when employed by state sponsored gangs.
bulletNeil Baird - the publisher of the former News Report, he has spoken three times on themes related to economic globalisation.
bulletHarry Fritz-Gerald Beahrends - "Is today's economic system serving the People of a Nation" - this address explored with the audience what economic benefit we as people still have in the current economic order and what good political economics are needed to have a Good Society. Harry asks the question, for what did people fight for the twentieth century's wars? Did they fight for the present degrading economic system to become slaves of money?
bulletPeter Whitfield - an engineer who lived and worked in Iraq and the Gulf States, he spoke on his experiences in Iraq.
bulletJohn Wilson - a judicial critic and activist spoke of judicial corruption.
bulletRay Hoser - a well known legal activist, explained the extent of official and police corruption in Victoria.
bulletJohn Bursill - "Why 911 Truth" - presented evidence that it was an inside job and why it is important we expose it to the people.
bulletDoug Giddings - a freedom activist, he spoke on the erosion of freedoms in a non-democratic society.

Why do you not want these topics to be discussed?????

And yes, to balance the scales, we have also had the following speakers who you may find controversial:

bulletDr. Fredrick Toben - one of Australia’s and the world’s most well known "Holocaust Revisionists" spoke on the concept of "thought crime" and his personal experience and conflict with thought crime agencies
bulletDr. Jim Saleam - a prominent nationalist activist, theorist and writer, he has spoken at every Forum on different themes. Jim was the co-organiser with Welf Herfurth in the Forum's foundation.
bulletAssociate Professor Andrew Fraser - a nationally known figure and academic in struggle with the Human Rights thought-police, he spoke on his sensational free speech process.

We encourage and allow all views to be discussed and debated at the Forum, we do not hysterically demand that views we do not approve of be crushed and censored – um… wouldn’t that be fascist?

Kind Regards

The Sydney Forum

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nobody here would be interested mate, leave.
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Sydney Forum has a point, the state does in fact try to brand far-left ideologies and groups as hateful, [unnecessarily] violent, dangerous, a public menace, etc.
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Thank you for the perfect text book reply as to why we need to have this debate.

We dont need to have this debate with you,

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Dr. Jim Saleam - a prominent nationalist activist, theorist and writer, he has spoken at every Forum on different themes. Jim was the co-organiser with Welf Herfurth in the Forum's foundation.

Im sorry but we hold no platform policy for racists or facists.

Jim Saleam is a formerly in the national socialist of Australia, I believe he now runs australia first in NSW, And welf is a prominant "Anarcho" nationalist.

Whilst some of your topics are issues that need to be debated, this is an event set up by and serves to promote the australia first party and other far right groups, an event that is well attended by the national socialist movement within Australia and serves as a platform for "former" and current facists.

Whilst your free to have your little get together (mind the company you keep) to promote such an event in a revolutionary leftist forum only serves to legitimise the far right.

To put it as australian as i can for you, faaarrrk off ya prick!

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